11 thoughts on “Is P-20 Education for Collective Democratic Participation Really a Good Investment?

  1. “First create problems in schools by refusing to teach reading and writing properly or providing rich content. Then use the deliberate dysfunction to provoke outrage and nurture a sense of grievance for political and social change. Organize the parents and subject the students to a non-academic social and emotional learning and values curricula like Purple America and Responsive Classroom from previous posts”

    Fascinating. This sounds strangely like what were to happen if the strategies of incremental revolution from within the system of Saul Alinsky, Francis Fox Piven, and John Cloward were to be integrated into public school pedagogy and administration. Provoke chaos, strife, and confrontation, overload and overwhelm the system until it collapses, and then replace the destroyed system with a new paradigm.

    Transformational OBE becomes Transformational OBW (outcome based world).

    • That is not inconsistent with what I have been reading. I have known for a while that the effect of Transformational OBE or the current name-Competence as the goal for all was to gut the Division of Labor that free markets rely on. You were stuck in filter while I retreated with my Bioregionalism books to the beach for a few days. They were very graphic about the beginnings of this assault on Axemaker Minds and the connection to the Regional Equity Movement and ecology and sustainability. Will be writing that up soon.

      They were explicit about targeting the Division of Labor and Capitalism. More proof that tiptoeing through the footnotes in a fine detecting technique for seeking out open declarations.

  2. That comment above was from me. For some reason, when I posted the comment, it didn’t show up for several days. When it did, it put me down as “anonymous.” Must have gotten plugged up somewhere.

  3. “You were stuck in filter while I retreated with my Bioregionalism books to the beach for a few days.”

    OK, caught me red-handed. Should have read your post first!

    • As you can tell it was a good place to interact with scheming plans. People who know me know I save some of my nerdiest stuff for the beach. They will laugh when someone asks what I am reading. I actually read Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty at the beach and Muravchik’s Heaven on Earth detailing the various socialist regimes and what happened to them.

      • Muravchik’s book was excellent. I read that one about the time it came out, and his biographical approach was interesting, and provides an intellectual history of the socialist Idea through the intellectual development and careers of its pre and post, or later, Marxist theorists.

        Actually, I just finished (this week), Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, by Engels, and I have to say that while the 20th century cultural Marxists (which I consider the primary threat faced by western civilization and humanity itself, at present, not the old Marxist-Leninist variety, although this is not necessarily that far outside the realm of modern “progressivism” once it feels powerful and unaccountable enough to take ever more sterner and authoritarian measures in its always expanding search for concentrated power) rationalized and expanded the original ideas considerably, the early, doctrinaire Marxists held to a number of the same key ideas and vision of humanity and society.

        Much of the changes from Gramsci through Marcuse and the postmodernists was a matter more of nuance, emphasis, and deemphasis, not foundational assumption.

        Education is one of the core battlegrounds of the 21st century that will decide, in my estimation, whether we prefer darkness to light.

  4. Why not the beach? If you’re going to read about crippling social, political and hence schooling policies, why not the beach, with clean air, a pure horizon, God’s blue or green Gulf waters and miles of sand under our feet. We need the clean to counter balance the filth that’s being promulgated as truth, and then made into gruel for our children to consume in so-called institutions of learning. Ahhh learning. I am currently retreated at a beach also, in order to clear my head and write, about what’s going on that you have discovered and I have discovered about our children and their future in the Public School System. I think the beach is perfect for such weighty matters.

  5. I just read your Oct 8 post, and you reflect the same need for the beach as you ponder and read of this nefariousness. The Gulf of Mexico, and I am on its Florida shores, is wonderfully restorative for this old grandma.

  6. I lived in the Palm Bay/Melbourne area for about three years, and near Orlando until 1999. Great place, but I do hear its become a bit crowded now, compared to the 1990s.

  7. If no one has ever taught the sheeple who elected our current closet Marxist loving POTUS the truth about the failed attempts at such a state of governance, how in the world do we do anything about it now? As Central Florida grew more crowded, and school buildings were overpacked the day they opened, and parents were eventually trained to be satisfied with status quo. Fair to middling grades, a clean school and well supplied classroom, not too much expected from child or parent, and keep em moving, in one door and out the other. The brightest minds seemed to leave us duller, the ones who came to us the neediest, well, many of them left us with even less of the little hope they once had, and one or two soared like eaglets to the highest peaks. They were the ones who entered middle school with strong intact families, a faith in someone greater than them and a worldview emerging clear as the day. And this is what the public school system is programmed to replace and defeat.

    How do we wake them up?

    • Doing my best to deliver a piercing cry. I was out last night in my other role as mom hearing how wonderful things are from parents who cannot bear to believe otherwise. I don’t really blame them and I let it go. But I also have to live with this new goal of 90% graduating high school and 85% of them going on to college. Except they have already reorganized the college system to change what goes on to make it easier to graduate without skills or knowledge. About 90% of schools have no SAT minimum. They plan to use technology to get grad rate up and lots of group projects. Eight years of delivering tax and tuition money to a high school and then university for a paper credential is ultimately a bad deal for anyone not working directly for the district or university or as a vendor.

      We are creating expectations at great expense while simultaneously secretly clipping the wings of students so they will actually never be able to fly on their own. When the inevitable happens and they cannot take off, they assume it’s not them and someone needs to do something. And we then have an even more state controlled economy with no prosperity.

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